Surrey County Council propose one of the slowest emergency response times standards in the UK

The Fire Brigades Union is urging Surrey County Council to stop misleading the public and set a response standard that really protects the public.

Surrey County Council has released summary documentation to the public, which states: “We aim to have one fire engine at these critical incidents within 10 minutes and a second one within 15 minutes on 80% of occasions.”

But it makes no mention of when that time is measured from. Nationally emergency response times are measured from the time a call for assistance from a member of the public is received, to when a fire engine has arrived at the incident.

Surrey’s proposed standard does not start the clock until the fire engine has been mobilised. This makes a considerable difference.

The average time taken from Time of Call to an appliance booking mobile is;
Wholetime fire engine 3 minutes and 17 seconds
Retained duty fire engine 6 minutes and 25 seconds
(Surrey Fire and Rescue Service Performance Data Report, November 2009)

Surrey County Council are proposing that the first fire engine should be in attendance within 10 minutes to comply with the standard, but in reality the real time could be as much as 16 minutes and 25 seconds and still comply. This is over double the current standards response time.

Richard Jones, FBU brigade secretary for Surrey said: “We have challenged this misleading Emergency Response Standard but there are no plans to come clean and include the call handling and mobilising time in the standard. Since we have already brought this to the attention of the council and they have not made any changes to the proposed standard or clarified the detail with the public we conclude that the standard is designed to be deliberately misleading.

“A Response Standard should measure the time taken to respond with a fire engine to a call from the public and not from when the fire engine leaves the fire station; if that measurement of time had a name it would be a Drive Time Standard.

“We urge Surrey County Council to stop misleading the public who cannot see the vitally important difference highlighted above from the documentation available in the public domain.”

Source:

http://www.firebrigadesunion.org.uk/?p=1349

Note: The Isle of Wight Council are proposing that Surrey Fire and Rescue Service will run the emergency Fire Control function of the Isle of Wight Fire and Rescue Service.

Related links:

Fire Brigades Union

Isle of Wight Council

Isle of Wight Fire and Rescue Service

Surrey Fire and Rescue Service

Region 12 (Southern Region) Fire Brigades Union

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Face the Facts – Money To Burn, BBC Radio 4

Face the Facts – Money To Burn, BBC Radio 4

Firefighters need the right equipment and back up if they are going to save lives. But millions of pounds have been spent on state of the art control rooms that may never be used, fire engines that are so heavy they can’t be driven at speed and a fire training house – that caught fire.

Just some of the costly procurement decisions made on behalf of fire and rescue services across Britain – but paid for by us.

Listen to the broadcast here via BBC iPlayer: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00tgwlf/Face_the_Facts_Money_To_Burn/

Broadcast on:
BBC Radio 4, 12:30pm Thursday 26th August 2010
Duration:
26 minutes
Available until:
12:00am Thursday 1st January 2099

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BBC iPlayer

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